tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12501248.post4561475258399438853..comments2024-03-28T07:02:44.451+00:00Comments on The Beer Nut: I want a beer, not a lifestyle choiceThe Beer Nuthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14105708522526153528noreply@blogger.comBlogger14125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12501248.post-76796405301753746662009-12-14T21:50:32.327+00:002009-12-14T21:50:32.327+00:00What about the common, tasty and cheap Saison Dupo...What about the common, tasty and cheap Saison Dupont Biologique ?<br />How come nobody cited it ? Is taht because it's not reallt organic or just because... ?<br /><br />Interesting post.<br /> ep99Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12501248.post-17414170346583417032009-10-21T19:36:21.436+01:002009-10-21T19:36:21.436+01:00I agree. People forget that although improvments a...I agree. People forget that although improvments are being made, Brewing is massively resource-intensive. Slamming 'Organic' onto a label should not be a 'buying point', just aa bonus. It's all about taste, and as you point out, it's gotta taste good too - I echo the shout for Pinkus special.Leighhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05512660051158275112noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12501248.post-72090633746733469142009-10-20T19:43:18.296+01:002009-10-20T19:43:18.296+01:00Butte Creek have a savage Organic pale ale, their ...Butte Creek have a savage Organic pale ale, their porter and pils are also supposed to be tasty. I will find out and let you know :)Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14635604767630047676noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12501248.post-15377915406221892052009-10-20T09:01:55.958+01:002009-10-20T09:01:55.958+01:00Further to what Barry says, I think breweries will...Further to what Barry says, I think breweries will often compromise on ingredient quality just to get the organic tag. Beer made from chemically treated hops, in my experience, <i>just tastes better</i>.<br /><br />But there are plenty of really good, buy-again organic beers out there. Pinkus Special and Schneider Edel-Weiss are just two I've encountered recently, and Green Man's Organic Best Better, though it's three years since <a href="http://thebeernut.blogspot.com/2006/10/miscellaneous-kiwis.html" rel="nofollow">I tasted it</a>, still sticks in my head as a fantastic beer, and one I'd happily buy again.The Beer Nuthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14105708522526153528noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12501248.post-65777613732004332512009-10-20T08:44:18.856+01:002009-10-20T08:44:18.856+01:00It's as if people expect organic to be better ...It's as if people expect organic to be better tasting in some way. It's just a beer, and like every beer, it can taste great, ok or crap. There are probably so few real organic beers that the usual breakdown of most beers being mediocre also applies to this small subset. I'll judge by taste first...<br /><br />As it happens, I quite like the Pinkus Müller stuff, which happens to be organic, but by the same token have had some <a href="http://thebittenbullet.blogspot.com/2008/10/quick-trip-to-bayern.html" rel="nofollow">really awful</a> (Viva Bavaria) organic beers. But no more awful than "regular" beer unless you're expecting it to be better. In other words, more misses than hits, just like with any beer. I've also been surprised by a beer from the same maker of the vile Viva Bavaria which was actually <a href="http://thebittenbullet.blogspot.com/2008/11/riedenburger-export-weissbier.html" rel="nofollow">very nice</a>.<br /><br />But yeah, if it's a lifestyle choice you're after, then you have less choice, so have to choose wisely :)Barry Mhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07367655129107699025noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12501248.post-4103687184561406602009-10-20T07:27:27.220+01:002009-10-20T07:27:27.220+01:00I think Nate's hit the nail on the head: "...I think Nate's hit the nail on the head: "I have yet to taste an "organic" beer that begs me to purchase it again". There are some good ones, but none that are worth going our of your way for.Baileyhttp://boakandbailey.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12501248.post-64576508928196378112009-10-19T20:01:56.056+01:002009-10-19T20:01:56.056+01:00How about buying just local if you really want to ...How about buying just local if you really want to reduce the carbon footprint your pint has?Pivní Filosofhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17883511608403454943noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12501248.post-6998287558005507622009-10-19T18:15:55.401+01:002009-10-19T18:15:55.401+01:00I really enjoyed your second to last paragraph; qu...I really enjoyed your second to last paragraph; quite true. Besides water waste and chemical cleanser, a majority of brewers use yeast nutrient...I hope our organic friends didn't!<br /><br />I have yet to taste an "organic" beer that begs me to purchase it again, though I've not sampled Daas.natehttp://thankheavenforbeer.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12501248.post-80050762453440158662009-10-19T17:12:15.375+01:002009-10-19T17:12:15.375+01:00For Ed: Bison in California makes some excellent o...For Ed: Bison in California makes some excellent organic beer. Mothership Wit from New Belgium is organic and tasty.<br /><br />Water usage depends on how you measure it. New Belgium is more transparent than most, reducing their usage to 3.8 gallons per 1 gallon of beer in 2008. Info is here:<br /><br />http://www.newbelgium.com/blog/post/2008-water-dataStan Hieronymushttp://www.appellationbeer.com/blognoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12501248.post-39853517786577057482009-10-19T10:25:27.746+01:002009-10-19T10:25:27.746+01:00I've got a Sierra Nevada post coming up soon, ...I've got a Sierra Nevada post coming up soon, funnily enough. I think there may be a wee bit of a food miles issue for us, though.The Beer Nuthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14105708522526153528noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12501248.post-79998136866509785432009-10-19T10:17:02.822+01:002009-10-19T10:17:02.822+01:00I'm always suspicious of products that assume ...I'm always suspicious of products that assume you will buy it just because it says things like organic or natural on it. <br />If you want a proper environmentally friendly brewery check out Sierra Nevada, I came across them while researching the use of fuel cells.Bionic Laurahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00630751922629714247noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12501248.post-14708130055311033582009-10-19T09:35:11.985+01:002009-10-19T09:35:11.985+01:00You've increased my skepticism about these bee...You've increased my skepticism about these beers by drawing my attention to their use of greengrocers apostrophe's.Jeff Pickthallhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06343140031285101096noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12501248.post-50410348519781445732009-10-19T09:06:20.222+01:002009-10-19T09:06:20.222+01:00There are some very good ones out there, like the ...There are some very good ones out there, like the Schneider Edel-Weisse I reviewed last week, and the Pinkus Mueller beers, for that matter.The Beer Nuthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14105708522526153528noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12501248.post-85485510764138850062009-10-19T08:58:17.316+01:002009-10-19T08:58:17.316+01:00I don't think I've ever had an organic bee...I don't think I've ever had an organic beer that I've liked, so seeing 'organic' on the label will make me less likely to buy it. <br />As regards water usage some of the big, modern breweries have got it down to impressively low levels. If I remember rightly some are now down to a ratio <2:1 of water use to beer produced.Edhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13844169940650659196noreply@blogger.com